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| Mos |
Posted: Jun 19 2007, 11:54 PM
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Hi,
A complete 1G-FE engine with everything weighs 176.65kg. Mos. -------------------- Admin, Founding Member, Toymods Car Club Inc.
2000 IS200 Sports Luxury 1UZ-FE VVTi 210rwkw Previous: 1991 MX83 Grande 2JZ-GTE 222rwkw, 1984 AE86 Sprinter 4A-GE |
| DR-JEKL |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 02:32 PM
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Nice post!
Hope you didnt pull out your engine to check how much your engine weighed -------------------- ![]() High End Stez: Eclipse AVN 6000 DLS Nobeliums 6.2 DLS Ultimate A3 & A4 amps (Active) JL Audio 10W7 Stinger pro cables TRD VER S Zorst, Full C West Bodykit |
| greeneyes |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 03:51 PM
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What a boat anchor!
Anyone weighed a 1UZ V8?? or a Rover 3500?? The Samoan guy who helped pack the House in Howick picked up the Datsun 1600 engine (wrapped in a blanket) by himself, walked out the garage & put it in the van! I had taken the flywheel off before that... -------------------- |
| DR-JEKL |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 04:45 PM
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Aww cmon thats a bit harsh, after all he did have a jumper on the engine when the weight was taken -------------------- ![]() High End Stez: Eclipse AVN 6000 DLS Nobeliums 6.2 DLS Ultimate A3 & A4 amps (Active) JL Audio 10W7 Stinger pro cables TRD VER S Zorst, Full C West Bodykit |
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| YellowIS |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 04:58 PM
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![]() kickin it! Group: VIP Member Posts: 1,006 Member No.: 939 Joined: 18-September 06 |
While on the topics of engine weights, what does the 1jz-gte weigh does anyone know?
Grinder's recent single turbo car weighed in at 1420kg which was only 55kg above the red book kerb weight for the stock is200 is this correct? Thats the only information I have on it any more clues? -------------------- BNE - AUS
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| Mos |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 05:24 PM
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Boat Anchor?? Are you serious? I thought that was pretty light - imagine how much a 1/2JZ will weigh!!!
The 1UZ is (significantly) heavier, but as I haven't weighed it all in one piece yet I don't want to post up the figure. Rumours of 276kg for a 2JZ-GTE without transmission have popped up around the place. A 1JZ-GTE is definitely heavier than a 1G-FE, and the R154 will be at least the same as, if not heavier than, the J160, and considering my IS200 weighed in at 1420kg, I'm not convinced of the 1420 figure with the single turbo 1JZ... something doesn't make sense - scale tolerances I suggest. Without weighing it before and after on the same equipment you have no way of knowing if it gained or lost... The paper weight of an Aus 2000 IS200 is 1330kg. I've got friends who have pulled 4AGEs out of engine bays by themselves Mos. -------------------- Admin, Founding Member, Toymods Car Club Inc.
2000 IS200 Sports Luxury 1UZ-FE VVTi 210rwkw Previous: 1991 MX83 Grande 2JZ-GTE 222rwkw, 1984 AE86 Sprinter 4A-GE |
| grahamd |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 10:43 PM
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Official Toyota weight for 1JZGTE twin turbo version is 217kg and 1JZGTE VVTi version is 211kg.
Getrag V160 6 speed weighs 57kg. That is why my front end sat down lots after the conversion. -------------------- Graham D
IS200 Sports Luxury with 2.5GT-T & Getrag 6 speed IS200 Sports Luxury Auto (Wife's car so no mods allowed) Suzuki GSX750-F No wonder the garage is full. |
| YellowIS |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 01:43 PM
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Well the difference between Grahamd's 217kg 1JZGTE twin turbo and your 1GFE is 41kilos so maybe the 55kg difference is possible, depending on how much extra the gearbox weighs. In saying this the 1420 1JZGTE figure could well be wrong but its the difference in weight that we are intreseted in between the cars.
-------------------- BNE - AUS
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| grinder |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 02:12 PM
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The weight on the black IS was 1480 (just looked at the certificate)
If the IS is 1330kg on paper and the 1J is 211kg compared to 176kg for the 1G thats 35kg. Thats still 115kg unaccounted for I dont think the R154 weighs a 115kg more than the J160. Does your car weigh 1420 with the 1G or the 1UZ? If its the 1G there is still a 25kg difference.. Which would be about right with bolt ons and gearbox and cooler. not to bad considering you get 3 times the power and only gain 60kgs. |
| Brian_J |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 04:23 PM
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paper weight is 1330, but i bet thats probably the cars dry weight. accounting for all the fluids and you would get somethin above 1400 methinks
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| YellowIS |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 04:55 PM
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1gfe = 176.65 IS200 1gfe = 1420 = red book, Kerb Weight 1365kg, Tare Mass 1330kg 1jzgte = 217 vvti = 211 1jz-gte single turbo IS200= 1480 Delta stock 1gfe, 1jzgte twin turbo = 40.35kg minus a turbo add a extra for a gearbox and assume that grinders black200 and Mos's Is200 had simlar fluid levels the Delta IS200 1gfe running fluids vs 1jzgte single turbo IS200 running fluids = 60kg I guess that could be plasible +- 15,0 kg for error. I'm just trying to figure out the weight change to see how much it would affect handling dynamics of the vehicle from a technical point of view as mos's previously stated wheel weight and 50/50 figures showed why the IS200 is a capable mover. -------------------- BNE - AUS
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| grinder |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 05:40 PM
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What does a IS300 weigh?
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| beerbaron |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 05:49 PM
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IS300 Kerb Weight Mass 1505kg
IS300 Gross Vehicle Mass 1970kg So a 1jz combo is lighter than an is300.... |
| black200 |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 06:34 PM
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are you serial? 2 1970 for a 300... i thought they were porky but....?? -------------------- ftw
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| greeneyes |
Posted: Jun 22 2007, 10:14 PM
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Greeneyes (RS200Z man) weighs 1340kg
Weighed today for more paperwork for the Compliance parasites. Strangely enough, that's what it weighed in Auckland... -------------------- |
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